Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/01/Category:Rio Negro

Category:Rio Negro

	Category:Río Negro River (Río Negro Province)	Move to/Rename as	Category:Río Negro (main stem river)
	Category:Rio Negro	Move to/Rename as	Category:Rio Negro (Amazon River tributary)
	Category:Rio Negro, Uruguay	Move to/Rename as	Category:Rio Negro (Uruguay River tributary)
	Category:Río Negro (Chaco)	Move to/Rename as	Category:Río Negro (Paraná River tributary)
	Category:Rio Negro	Disambiguate	Wikimedia disambiguation category
	All should have consistent dab in name. Standard for geographic features dab'd by administrative division is to place it in () and best to use the most general (largest) division which gives clarity (start with country-level). For the Brazilian river, there are multiple towns in Brazil named Rio Negro to dab from, so river is added. Per suggestion below, dab by parent system may be better than political division.
	Josh (talk) 17:27, 24 February 2020 (UTC) (original proposal: Josh (talk) 18:44, 3 January 2020 (UTC))

In Argentina exists Category:Río Negro Province and Category:Río Negro (Chaco) too. Regards, Juanman (talk) 04:56, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

@Jmmuguerza: Thanks, I have added the river above. The province can remain named as it is. Josh (talk) 20:53, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

@Joshbaumgartner: Category:Rio Negro links to en:Rio Negro (Amazon) which runs through Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela. Maybe a move to Category:Rio Negro (river, Amazon) would make more sense? - Themightyquill (talk) 11:03, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

@Themightyquill: That is an excellent point. I often have wondered why so many topographical features are categorized by human political boundaries. To me it would make no sense to name towns "Category:Town (river basin)" and so it seems equally odd to name a river "Category:Tributary (state/country)". However, that seems to be the norm and barring challenging that norm, I tried to stick within it with this proposal. I would be more than happy if we structured natural features in a natural hierarchy just as human features follow a human hierarchy. Josh (talk) 17:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

@Themightyquill: Thoughts on the updates above? See en:Main stem and en:Tributary which I referenced for terminology.

Nothing wrong by using human geographic hierarchy because it is the most clear/obvious. And as far as the suggestions above:

Category:Río Negro (main stem river) is unacceptable since it is still vague - it should be Category:Río Negro (Río Negro Province) (the word river is redundant obviously).

Agree that Category:Rio Negro should become the DAB page, and the Amazon tributary should become Category:Rio Negro (Amazon). --P 1 9 9  ✉ 20:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

stale discussion. Category:Rio Negro is changed to DAB to move on with this CFD--Estopedist1 (talk) 20:26, 12 December 2021 (UTC)