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File:In_Nacht_und_Eis_(Titanic_sinking).jpg[edit]

Screengrab of a German silent movie. PD-US does not apply. ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 19:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the movie is in public domain since its author is likely to be dead during WWI : is death date is unknown but he stopped making films in 1915 ([1]). I don't know if the picture can be kept. LittleTony87 (talk) 19:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Probably not. Mime Misu was born Misu Rosescu on January 21, 1888 in Botosani, Romania.[2] That's all the information the IMDB has on him. But there is this article on him that quotes 1921 articles[3]in English via Google Translate that talks about Mr. Misu and the Misugraph Film Company. One Romanian book calls him Mişu Rosescu, which may be a careless respelling or a more accurate version of his original name. Having looked through Google Books, there's nothing on either of the names we know after 1921.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid, this is not sufficient to assume the move is PD. As this is a German movie, it needs to be PD in Germany. German copyright law requires, that _all_ people creating this movie must have been dead for at least 70 years. This includes camera men etc.. I don't have a complete list of people working on this movie, but unless we know for sure that they are all dead, we cannot assume, that the movie is PD in Germany. Regards, -- ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 03:12, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Camera men don't matter. In the EU, w:Copyright law of the European Union says "For films and other audiovisual works, the seventy year period applies from the last death among the following people, whether or not they are considered to be authors of the work by the national law of the Member State: the principal director (who is always considered to be an author of the audiovisual work), the author of the screenplay, the author of the dialogue and the composer of music specifically created for use in the cinematographic or audiovisual work (Art. 2, D. 93/98/EEC)." In this case Mime Misu is the only person who matters; he is the director and the only person listed with writing credits, and no music is known.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:10, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. Jcb (talk) 14:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:In Nacht und Eis (Titanic sinking).jpg[edit]

Country of origin is Germany. According to de:In Nacht und Eis this movied was directed by de:Mime Misu who died in 1953. Therefore this is not PD in its country of origin until January 1, 2024. ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 13:06, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't knew Mime Mise death date when I uploaded this : all my researsh tended to prove that he died during World War I since his last film was dated 1915. If he died in 1953, all is changed ; so delete. LittleTony87 (talk) 13:10, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted.     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:52, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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