User talk:Dbachmann
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dave pape 15:52, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Image Tagging Image:Tiberkul church.jpg[edit]
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well done. This was a perfectly legal self-made image. --Dbachmann (talk) 08:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Please link images[edit]
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map update: Scythia-Parthia_100_BC.png[edit]
As a consequence of the archaeological excavations at Arzhan, Republic of Tyva, to which reference is made in the text, the full eastern spread of the Scythians should be included on the map Scythia-Parthia_100_BC.png. Ref.: [1]
The size of the kurgans, and quality of the findings now on display in the National Museum in Kyzyl, capital of the Republic of Tyva, surpass contemporary discoveries further west to Ukraine, and thus throw into question the 'origin' of the Scyths.
I have spent several years living in Tyva, teaching at the university - hence my interest.
Regarding the centum/satem map, isn't it rather artificial to place Romanian and French on opposite sides of the isogloss? Romanian appears among the satem languages and French among the centum languages. The words for "hundred" in these languages are "sută" and "cent" respectively; both are pronounced with an 's' (i.e. an alveolar fricative). But both derive from Latin centum.
The placement on either side of the line seems like an attempt to enforce some clear east/west split, at the expense of historical fact. --Saforrest (talk) 16:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Question[edit]
- Sorry to bother you again.You think i can upload this? footmen evolution and this Helmets.Its a sketch(es), from here Christopher Webber's page if i get his permission?. Megistias (talk) 23:09, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
no, you probably cannot upload somebody else's artwork just like that. You need to file a verifiable permission via Wikimedia's ticket system. --Dbachmann (talk) 08:18, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- Its ok i contacted both the artist and the magazine and i am expecting an answer.Megistias (talk) 08:49, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Excuse me, could I also ask a question Owen7773 (talk) 11:42, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
File source is not properly indicated: File:Gladiatoria 113.jpg[edit]
Hi. An image you uploaded a while back has no information about source nor what is shown. Could you please add information? Thanks!
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MGA73 (talk) 19:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Commons[edit]
¿Do you have this picture or other? --Viejo sabio (talk) 10:08, 9 November 2009 (UCT)
Sorry, I don't have that one. --Dbachmann (talk) 14:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Ok. Thank you very much for the rest of Bollingen's images. A greeting. --Viejo sabio (talk) 16:09, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Italy 6th c. BC linguistic map[edit]
Hi. I find your previous map File:Iron Age Italy.png) much superior to your latest one (File:Iron Age Italy.svg). The former has a colour scheme that shows the linguistic affinities between the languages (and also has relief). So I've reverted to that for my article Scii. Regards EraNavigator (talk) 17:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Please help replace this outdated license[edit]
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File:Chariot spread.png[edit]
Hi Dbachmann. A couple of other editors and I are looking to take the Horse article to FA status on the English WP, and we would like to use your image File:Chariot spread.png in the article. However, as an image in an FA article, it needs to include a source for the information you included in the drawing. Would you possibly be able to add this information to the description of the image? Thanks in advance! Dana boomer (talk) 22:46, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Wrong information about Ukraine
Hi Db, your map is not right. Ukraine has only 0,5% of muslim population (or 250,000) and your map (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Islam_in_Europe.png) is showing 5%. Please edit this mistake. Thanks! --93.141.2.49 11:36, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
In 1500 B.C., Turkic-speaking peoples were probably mainly in Siberia, and Iranian-speaking peoples (and other Indo-European speakers) probably inhabited a greater area of central Asia (and even Kazakhstan) than what is shown on the map... AnonMoos (talk) 17:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Never mind, just figured out that it's "before present, not B.C. However, my remarks partly apply to File:IE3500BP.png... AnonMoos (talk) 17:28, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Bas-relief[edit]
[comment made at User talk:Jameslwoodward/Archive3]
- "In my opinion, a bas-relief is not a sculpture. A high-relief may arguably be a collection of diminutive sculptures in front of a stone face, but a bas-relief is clearly a 2-dimensional work of art, depicting a scene from only a single angle.
- You might as well argue that an oil-painting is a 3-dimensional work of art because the paint layers have thickness.
- Photographs of sculptures are legally considered original works, because lighting and choice of angle may be done creatively by the photographer. A bas-relief cannot be reproduced "orignally". This image is merely an unoriginal reproduction of a 2-dimensional ancient work of art and consequently not copyrightable. --Dbachmann (talk) 14:48, 10 March 2011 (UTC)"
[end of comment]
I have reverted your comment made on my Archive. Archives are just that, not active discussions. Comments made on a talk page are very public, while those made on an archive are essentially invisible, except to you and me.
As to your point, perhaps you should have read the discussion while you were at my archive as it clearly addressed the points you made above.
I agree that a bas-relief may not be a sculpture within the usual meaning of the word. It is, however, a 3D work, not 2D. The direction and angle of the lighting can dramatically affect the image.
My view is reinforced by our formal policy on coins, Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#Photograph_of_an_old_coin_found_on_the_Internet. A coin and a bas-relief such as the one we are discussing have more or less the same relief.
Finally, our position that photographs of 2D works do not have a new copyright is based entirely on Bridgeman v Corel, which dealt only with 2D works. This is not a 2D work, despite your opinion to the contrary.
Feel free to try to change our well established policy on coins and similar works. However, until that policy is changed, works like this will remain unacceptable on Commons. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:55, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Since Bridgeman v Corel does not address this case in any way, I fail to see why should be able to cite it in support of your point of view any more than I could cite it in support of mine.
If there is a court verdict stating explicitly that bas-reliefs should be considered "3-dimensional works of art" for the purposes of copyright law, I would be interested in seeing it. And after being shown such a verdict I would of course immediately concede that this settles the question. As long as there isn't, this is simply idle speculation.
If there is a precedent that makes your point that "dramatic effects" of lighting on bas-reliefs or coins should be considered an original work worthy of copyright protection, I would be interested in seeing it. As long as there is no such precedent, I see no reason why wikimedia should go beyond actual legal practice in assuming things to be copyrighted. I am sure you can also create a "dramatic" effect by reproducing a photograph using, say, red lighting, or no lighting. But as we both know, such an effect, no matter how dramatic, has no effect on copyright. --Dbachmann (talk) 09:12, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
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Fry1989 (talk) 19:14, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
File:Armenian Empire2.png[edit]
On 10 March, you tagged File:Armenian Empire2.png for deletion, but it appears that the nomination was not completed. I have re-nominated that file, along with another, at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Armenian Empire2.png. Cheers, Black Falcon (talk) 19:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thank you. --Dbachmann (talk) 10:00, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
My Behavior[edit]
How can you talk about my behavior when you make edits like this in which you replace sourced content with your opinion. When one says things like "fallen out of use completely", "has been used as continental boundary in Late Antiquity", "has been the commonly used continental boundary", one can hardly be trusted on one's words alone. You should know that by now.
You have actually been pushing your opinions blatantly on other pages as well, such as this. Your new description reads "Locator map of Serbia which has been altered to show Armenia instead of Serbia for some reason."??? Is this some kind of mockery? Comments like this have no place in descriptions. So what that another map was used, most of the maps are actually derivative works and this one makes it clear in the description.--ComtesseDeMingrelie (talk) 20:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
what are you talking about? This has nothing to do with my opinions, it has everything to do with encyclopedic content discussed at w:continental boundary and elsewhere. Also, you are edit warring against numerous editors, all bona fide map editors. People upload broken and erroneous maps to commons. These should either be corrected or deleted. Sometimes I cannot be bothered to do either, so I leave at least a comment warning people against using it in encyclopedia articles. --Dbachmann (talk) 20:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Let me repeat this again: you deleted my sourced info. and replaced it with your opinions. You did the same thing on other maps, like the one I provided above. This little paragraph that you just wrote does not address any of the two instances raised above, and it does not explain why you feel like you have a monopoly in determining which maps are "erroneous" - despite being sourced - and which are not.--ComtesseDeMingrelie (talk) 20:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
nonsense. your "sourced info" concerned Herodotus. In a map that has nothing to do with Herodotus. You, madam, are just a troll. --Dbachmann (talk) 06:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- I at least had some source, while you had absolutely none. Using words like "standard", "most common", "most standard" requires that you furnish necessary evidence but I have not seen any of that as of now. That is undoubtedly the reason why you limit yourself to one sentence answers here and other pages. Answer my argument on the Europe map page,where are you hiding?--ComtesseDeMingrelie (talk) 06:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- wow, I have "no source"? Please come to w:continental boundary and read all about it. It's an encyclopedia article. With references. --Dbachmann (talk) 06:22, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- I at least had some source, while you had absolutely none. Using words like "standard", "most common", "most standard" requires that you furnish necessary evidence but I have not seen any of that as of now. That is undoubtedly the reason why you limit yourself to one sentence answers here and other pages. Answer my argument on the Europe map page,where are you hiding?--ComtesseDeMingrelie (talk) 06:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Ukraine maps[edit]
Find a job, and do not destroy my work! Your work is vandalism! --SeikoEn (talk) 16:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for clearing everything up with the file. I went and put the Swedish into the language template. And I didn't mean to put the old category back in. Sorry about that. Hazmat2 (talk) 21:14, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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please tag images --Nikbot 11:55, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
thank you, dear Nikbot, but I wanted this image deleted. --Dbachmann (talk) 11:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
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Autopatrol given[edit]
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Filemover[edit]
You now have the filemover right. INeverCry 16:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
It appears to me that your revert didn't work. Is it just my cache? Chipmunkdavis (talk) 06:51, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I think so. The image is ok again for me at this point. Must be your cache. --Dbachmann (talk) 07:51, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Great job tracking down the origin of the image.
In light of its actual subject matter, should the file be renamed? — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 15:32, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
well, there is a much better quality scan at bnf.fr, so I suppose we could just upload that under another filename. I would like to keep the old image around though, as it has really made wikihistory over the past seven years or so. I actually remember the original debate on this image back in 2005. --Dbachmann (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
- That makes sense. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 15:53, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm reasonably certain that it's just the word "Spiritus" written upside-down for some reason... AnonMoos (talk) 09:34, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- you may be right. Interesting, it never occurred to me that "spiritus" upside-down would look like "baruch", but I'll retract my claim. --Dbachmann (talk) 10:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. Looking at the image again, the bottom two "Non Est"s are written mostly upside down, so writing "Spiritus" upside down is consistent with that... AnonMoos (talk) 15:33, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- you are right. I was misled by the "capital S" used for Spiritus. --Dbachmann (talk) 05:51, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. Looking at the image again, the bottom two "Non Est"s are written mostly upside down, so writing "Spiritus" upside down is consistent with that... AnonMoos (talk) 15:33, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
File:Studying1.jpg[edit]
The license of this image now appears to be CC NC. Not sure what it was before [2]. Thoughts. James Heilman, MD (talk) 16:17, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- looks ok to me. --Dbachmann (talk) 11:58, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
IE expansion picture need an update[edit]
Hi Dbachmann, I like your picture of Indo-European Expansion (File:IE expansion.png) that you created all the way back in 2005. But there are some problems with it, if you check the English Wikipedia talk page (here), you see that a user has listed several errors in the image. I would agree with all of the points made in that list, except perhaps Crete and Cyprus as I think they were at least partly Greek by that date. Other anomalies would be the Etruscans in Italy and I'm not sure about the arrangement in Iberia either. Another issue may be Anatolia, my understanding is that the Northern coastal region of Turkey was non-Indo-European for a long time after 2500 BC. The Kaskians and the Hattians lived there and in central Anatolia at that time and the Hattian area should only be Indo-European at 1000 BC, after the Hittites conquered the Hatti, in around ~1800 BC. Apart from those problems it's a nice map, but I think the issues should be resolved since this has now become such a frequently used image (several dozen articles on English Wikipedia alone use it). It would be really nice if you could create another expansion layer at like 500 BC or so. In fact it would probably be better to start with a higher resolution map, because that old one is very small for modern displays. --Hibernian (talk) 05:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
As you noted, I drew this picture as a brief sketch of the situation back in 2005. At the time, there was next to no coverage on the topic and a rough sketch was better than nothing. It is high time that the picture was replaced. I have always been aware that the image is only a rough illustration and not to be taken as accurate in any detail. It should just be superseded by a better map. So, the guy who made the list of complaints should just invest a little more effort and draw an improved map. It will be pointless to "fix" my old map, a the quality is simply too low. It could as best serve as a starting point on which to base the new maps. --Dbachmann (talk) 10:13, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Misnamed, orphan category[edit]
Category talk:Celtism - Zero response to call for discussion. We're the only two who seem to have bothered with it. Looks like it's up to us. Kathryn NicDhàna (talk) 20:33, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I guess I accept "Celtism" as an awkward synonym for "Celtic Neopaganism", so at least as long as the category isn't duplicated under several synonyms I suppose I don't care too much what it is called. But I agree that a move to "Celtic Neopaganism" would be preferable. Even if "Celtism" may (or may not) be acceptable, it certainly isn't unambiguous. The primary meaning of "Celtism" is much wider, referring to "the Celtic character" in culture, language, etc., certainly not limited to polytheistic or pre-Christian topics. --Dbachmann (talk) 11:29, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
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File source is not properly indicated: File:IE expansion.png[edit]
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Raven Banner[edit]
My support to your viewpoint here. I'm virtually speechless. Kind regards.--Gilwellian (talk) 22:38, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Deletion requests[edit]
Hello,
If a file has been on Commons for several years, do not tag it for speedy deletion. Open a regular deletion request instead. In addition, do not remove information from the description page. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:09, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
yes sorry, I meant to mark it as "copyrighted", not as "speedy". Also, I did submit a formal deletion request for the parent image. I am not aware that I did remove any information, I rather added what information I could find. I actually did spend some time researching this, see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Allah-eser.jpg . --Dbachmann (talk) 21:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Western Asia Orthographic Projection[edit]
Please check this page's talk. I left you a message. 174.17.25.26 17:32, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
What page? Give me a link or expect me not to bother. --Dbachmann (talk) 12:16, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
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Cylinder Seal of Khashkhamer[edit]
Cylinder Seal of Khashkhamer | |
Dear Dbachmann, I have written a book called "A Journey to Faith: Why the World Needs Jesus Christ" which follows the genealogy in the Bible from the time of Abraham to Jesus. When looking at the time of Abraham I explain what the City of Ur was like including the worship of the Moon-god Sin (Nanna) which is represented on this cylinder seal as the crescent moon. I would love to use this image in my book but my publisher requires a written permission for me to use this. As you have uploaded the image, could you reply in writing that it is OK for me to use this (I realise it is in the public domain, but my publisher still requires written permission).
Kind Regards - Paul Brunton. PaulBrunton64 (talk) 08:43, 13 April 2015 (UTC) |
dear Paul, the image is simply a scan from a book published in 1915 (Donald A. Mackenzie, Myths of Babylonia and Assyria, 1915, p. 50). If I can give you permission to use this image, you can just as well give yourself permission too (yes, you have my permission of course, but you don't need it, and I can not really "give you permission" for something you are free to do anything, I could as well "give you permission" to write a book about Jesus, which as I see you already did without asking me). --Dbachmann (talk) 10:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Wound images[edit]
The images were first published by Fackler in the following report for the U.S. Army. They were then republished in countless articles and books.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE WOUND BALLISTICS LITERATURE, AND WHY by M.L. Fackler, M.D.
Letterman Army Institute of Research Division of Military Trauma Research Presidio of San Francisco, California 94219
Institute Report No. 239 July 1987
SEE http://rkba.org/research/fackler/wrong.html
How shall we proceed?--RAF910 (talk) 04:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Would it be better to put the info in the "other versions=" box?--RAF910 (talk) 06:34, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Religious symbol[edit]
Some stricter Muslims object to so many symbols that the mosque icons are actually some of the relatively few which are innocuous. Not entirely sure why you've adopted a purist definition of what is an Islamic symbol in the current version of the page. AnonMoos (talk) 02:07, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- I am not objecting to the mosque clip-art, which as you say is completely innocuous, I am objecting to the use of the term "religious symbol" to mean "clip-art". Of course you can use a mosque image as "clip-art" to imply "Islamic" (although you may still be misunderstood as trying to convey the meaning "mosque" rather than "Islam"). But we should discourage people to do so on Wikipedia (and commons remains first and foremost a repository for images potentially to be used on Wikipedia), because there is no place at all for clip-art in Wikipedia articles (with the possible exception of articles that are about clip-art).
- Apart from the clipart problem, people appear to think that "religious symbol" means "some kind of logo used to represent some religion". This is not what the term means, and it is childish to attempt to come up with "religious logos". It is true that some religions have used such emblems in their history (most notably the fish emblem used by early Christians during persecution, here the fish is rebus writing for Jesus, but it is used as an emblem to convey "I am a Christian"). There is no reason to expect other religions have comparable emblems. A "religious symbol" is, in fact, a symbol used to represent a specific notion within a given religion. E.g. the bread and wine are Christian symbols representing Christ, or the Alif is a Sufi symbol representing both divine unity and Man. --Dbachmann (talk) 09:39, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- Some of your concerns may be interesting in a philosophical sense, but I'm not too sure that they change much of the practicalities involved in determining whether something something occurs as a symbol -- and they've led you into some kind of edit war with User:Cathy Richards, and to seem to take a side in inter-Muslim disputes by purging gallery Religious symbol of all images which might possibly be objectionable to Wahhabis/Salafis/purists. The hexagram was not particularly religious in content when it began to be identified as a symbol of the Jewish community in central Europe during the late middle ages, but I imagine that many Jews today would object to purging it from lists of Jewish symbols, and much the same is true of the crescent or star and crescent in Islam... AnonMoos (talk) 14:45, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- As you say yourself, your "religious symbols" categorisation is causing trouble and edit wars. This is sufficient reason to make this a practical problem, not an abstract philosophical one. You seem to be making no distinction between "Jewish symbol" and "symbol of Judaism"? This is unfortunate, and I would argue part of the problem. I made a Category:Islamic crescents. This is intended for images where crescents are used explicitly in an Islamic context. This is very different from just lumping any "crescent" as automatically within an "Islamic" scope, which is nonsense. Similarly, not any hexagram is automatically a star of David, but if we have an image that explicitly depicts a star of David, of course it is to be categorised as a Jewish symbol. Even an "Islamic crescent" is not a "symbol of Islam" by any stretch, even though it may be an "Islamic symbol". I am afraid I find it quite tedious to be forced to point out this kind of thing explicitly.
- I will be very happy to categorize File:Flag of the Sri Lanka Muslim Congress.png as an "Islamic symbol" (better yet, Category:Islamic logos subcategory), but neither can it be categorized as a "Symbol of Islam", nor can a random image like File:Crescent.svg be categorized as "Islamic" any more than File:Hexagram.svg should be categorized as "Jewish", either directly or via category transclusion. As for the religious symbols page, this is slightly disturbing because it is a "content" page hosted on commons and so tends to receive less scrutiny and seems to be exempt from having to cite its sources. Controversial content should be delegated to Wikipedia exclusively, where all the content quality guidelines have to be applied, in this case w:Religious symbol (which is an extremely poor article, but at least it is tagged as such) --Dbachmann (talk) 10:30, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- Dude, there's been no meaningful edit war on gallery Religious symbols (less than 50 edits over 8 years, only two of them explicit reverts), and I'm not really the main editor on that page. Since you're the one who is in some kind of struggle with Cathy_Richards, YOUR actions would appear to be causing more "trouble" and edit wars than mine are! I'm sure that your abstract symbolic metaphysics might be of interest in some particular contexts, but they appear to have little relevance to the practical task of improving Wikipedia and/or Commons... 12:15, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- well, "dude", I tried to explain my rationale in spite of your tone, but I can see now this wasn't the right decision. If you think that semantics is irrelevant when building the category system I would just suggest you try to avoid becoming involved in this kind of exchange. --Dbachmann (talk) 13:12, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- If you can't explain your reasoning behind your classifications in such a manner that those without advanced degrees in philosophy can understand it, then such classifications would appear to have little little relevance to the practical task of improving Wikipedia and/or Commons. (Note: I actually have an advanced degree in a relevant field, though not philosophy.) I often respect the things that you do, but every so often you go off on a semi-strange personal tangent (such as on the Labrys-Lesbian connection), and in such cases it's useless to expect people to follow you... AnonMoos (talk) 01:26, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Sigh, I got it, you didn't like my explanation. Enough already. Here is the short version: "Symbol of Islam" != "Islamic Symbol". Just name your categories in plain English and try to avoid misunderstandings or ambiguities. The end. --Dbachmann (talk) 14:59, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi. There are some doubts concerning this image, that you uploaded years ago. Somebody declares that www.lindenmuseum.de can't be its source. Can you comment on this? Is it possible that you make a mistake? Ankry (talk) 15:02, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- see archive.org. But this is immaterial anyway, this is just a random url where it was hosted, the reason the image is free is because it reproduces an 11th-century manuscript drawing, not because it happened to be hosted on lindenmuseum.de or anywhere else. I really don't see why anyone would bother to dispute such a thing (and if they do, why they would not spend 30 seconds with archive.org to check). Dbachmann (talk) 17:24, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. The problem was not a license, but the real source. Somebody claimed it was false. No problem now. Ankry (talk) 18:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
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diff -- it was a typo (not by me). --Dbachmann (talk) 01:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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An unfree Flickr license has been found on File:Taplow drinking horns.jpg[edit]
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Removal of licenses[edit]
Hi, if you disagree with a license, nominate the file for deletion instead of removing the license. You are causing unnecessary maintenance work. Jcb (talk) 13:28, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- Well, if I note a licence that is obviously spurious, would you prefer if (a) I removed it for being spurious or (b) did nothing? In my view, I am doing part of the maintenance work and I don't see how it is "unnecessary". The people causing said maintenance work are those adding spurious licencing claim, I don't see how I am "causing" the problem by noticing. --Dbachmann (talk) 17:36, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- If you remove the license from a file, after some time a bot will add it to Category:Media without a license: needs history check. Then somebody has to look at the files in those category one by one, to find out why it has no longer a machine readable license. This is a time consuming process. If you find a file with a bogus license, please do (c), press the "nominate for deletion" link from the left menu and tell what's wrong. This way the proper process is started at once and it cause the least workload for the administrators. Jcb (talk) 18:12, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, this is precisely why I am doing it, I mean to flag it for review. I come across these cases when I am busy researching something else, and I will not have time to review and explain the problem, but I wish to point out there is a problem. If you think that there is none, you are free to just roll back my edit and restore the licence the way it was. If you think there is a problem too, you can handle it in any way you would handle it if you had noticed it on your own. Or, you know, you could just do nothing and leave it for somebody else to deal with, it's not like either of us can fix all of the problems, we all have to set priorities.
- I just realise you are the person I had the "3d" discussion with. So in this context, please allow for the possibility that I understand what you are telling me and still, in full knowledge of the facts, might come to a conclusion different from yours. --Dbachmann (talk) 18:28, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- If you want to come to the conclusion that you should cause unnecessary maintenance work, please do not act based on that conclusion. Jcb (talk) 22:14, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- I see you do find it quite difficult to hold a conversation. The entire point revolves around the judgement of what is "necessary". Please let it rest. If you think I did something worthy of administrative intervention, please ask other administrators to contact me in the future. --Dbachmann (talk) 06:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- I told you what the proper procedure is and I explaned why your deviation of that procedure is disruptive. Following proper procedure is not optional. Please make sure you don't flood maintenance categories again. We are pretty understaffed and we can do without such stubborn actions. Jcb (talk) 15:50, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- I see you do find it quite difficult to hold a conversation. The entire point revolves around the judgement of what is "necessary". Please let it rest. If you think I did something worthy of administrative intervention, please ask other administrators to contact me in the future. --Dbachmann (talk) 06:00, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- If you want to come to the conclusion that you should cause unnecessary maintenance work, please do not act based on that conclusion. Jcb (talk) 22:14, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- I just realise you are the person I had the "3d" discussion with. So in this context, please allow for the possibility that I understand what you are telling me and still, in full knowledge of the facts, might come to a conclusion different from yours. --Dbachmann (talk) 18:28, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, this is precisely why I am doing it, I mean to flag it for review. I come across these cases when I am busy researching something else, and I will not have time to review and explain the problem, but I wish to point out there is a problem. If you think that there is none, you are free to just roll back my edit and restore the licence the way it was. If you think there is a problem too, you can handle it in any way you would handle it if you had noticed it on your own. Or, you know, you could just do nothing and leave it for somebody else to deal with, it's not like either of us can fix all of the problems, we all have to set priorities.
- If you remove the license from a file, after some time a bot will add it to Category:Media without a license: needs history check. Then somebody has to look at the files in those category one by one, to find out why it has no longer a machine readable license. This is a time consuming process. If you find a file with a bogus license, please do (c), press the "nominate for deletion" link from the left menu and tell what's wrong. This way the proper process is started at once and it cause the least workload for the administrators. Jcb (talk) 18:12, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- Strong oppose - You did not reflect on the block reason at all. Above I requested that you would follow proper procedure, which you refused. I explaned to you why your deviation of that procedure is disruptive, but you made up that there would be something personal from my side, which is of course not the case. By refusing to follow proper procedure, you are frustrating maintenance work. As long as you apparently don't understand that, I don't think you should be unblocked. I am prepared to lift the block myself as soon as you promise that you will no longer remove licenses you disagree with, but start a DR instead if you think the license is invalid. Jcb (talk) 10:41, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- You see what I mean there. Jcb should have recused himself from the block and ask input from other admins before applying it.
- Since he took it upon himself to issue the block, he should at least have posted his rationale here.
- instead he is now trying to explain his reasons of the block. The exchange above represents a bona fide difference in opinion. This is fine as long as one side is not abusing their admin privileges to push their own view in a personal dispute.
- I was not blocked as a result of the above disagreement, instead I was blocked without explanation a few days later.
- On Wikipedia, I would expect the offending admin to undue their dubious block on their own, recuse themselves, present the case to an uninvolved admin, and abide by their decision.
- I am requesting an uninvolved admin to decide if I am guilty of blockworthy behavior, and if so, to issue a block complete with a coherent explanation of their rationale. --Dbachmann (talk) 10:51, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- I think you are well aware why you were blocked, but I will spell it out: in this 25 January edit you wilfully ignored the discussion from 7-8 January above and continued your disruptive behaviour. Jcb (talk) 10:56, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
Now on the Village pump. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 14:06, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Could you reevaluate File:Protestant Reformed Confessions in Europe.png which you uploaded?[edit]
Hello,
Could you reevaluate File:Protestant Reformed Confessions in Europe.png which you uploaded?
The map has obvious factual errors, if it is meant to represent the present. The map looks more like the immediate aftermath of the Protestant demographics of post-World War 2, after the expulsion of the (predominantly Protestant) Germans from former German territories annexed by Poland and Soviet Russia. That is, before the increase of irreligion in the traditionally Protestant countries and areas of Europe.
For instance England and Wales are erroneously depicted as wholly Anglican and Scotland as wholly Presbyterian, and the Protestants in Northern Ireland as only Anglican. Protestantism is no longer a majority in any of the UK countries, let alone each distinct Protestant sect, and in Northern Ireland the Protestants are predominantly Anglican and Presbyterian. In Estonia, Protestantism and Christianity are not a majority, irreligion is the majority there.
There are also other inaccuracies mentioned in the file page and in the discussion page itself.
I would recommend a name change like File:Protestant Reformed Confessions in Europe (1950).svg by adding a year, which then would make this map accurate and relevant.
Your sincerely, Artoxx (talk) 14:47, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
- I am not sure I understand, the number "1950" suggests that this is meant to represent the situation in 1950. You seem to complain about this, or you seem to wish to have a map representing the more recent past, but this is just what this map is supposed to show, i.e. the situation in c. 1950. --Dbachmann (talk) 10:55, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- I would adapt my description from "Distribution of Protestantism in Europe" to "Distribution of Protestantism in Europe in c. 1950", but as you can see in the section above, someone with admin buttons has decided to act like a jerk, so I'll just have to ask you to make the edit on my behalf for now. --Dbachmann (talk) 10:57, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
Update request[edit]
Hello.
Can you add South Sudan and Montengro in File:Christ Islam.png which you uploaded?
Sources for the religious demography of Montenegro: https://www.monstat.org/eng/page.php?id=394&pageid=57 and South Sudan: http://www.globalreligiousfutures.org/countries
Yours sincerely, Artoxx (talk) 23:03, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hello.
- I requested this from you, as you uploaded this map and also because many Wikipedia articles use it. Only two countries need to be added.
- Yours sincerely, Artoxx (talk) 00:51, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
The map represents the situation in 2006. If you want to update it with post-2006 information, it might be better to create an entirely new map. Showing South Sudan in a map representing 2006 statistics would be an anachronism. Please feel free to update the map for 2017 and upload it, perhaps under a different filename. --Dbachmann (talk) 14:32, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
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Good editing practices[edit]
Hello.
Didn’t you learn from Wikipedia that blank edit summaries are evil? Use HotCat – it always cares about summaries and can do all things about categories, adding or changing keys included. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:06, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
Hm, I have been on Wikipedia since 2004, with about 300k edits so far I believe, and I don't exactly recall "blank edit summaries are evil" being one of our core project policies. It was more along the lines of "be constructive and use common sense" and "the gadgets are for the users, not the users for the gadgets". If you think there was a specific case where I was doing something stupid or causing damage, feel free to point me to the diff and I'll look into it. --Dbachmann (talk) 08:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
User:LenguaMapa[edit]
Hello.
Can you add User:LenguaMapa and File:Lenguas indoiranias.PNG, File:Iranian languages distribution.png File:Oghuz languages.PNG, File:Lenguas altaicas.png, File:Lenguas altaicas v 2 (2017).png, File:Idioma kurdo1.png to your watchlist. This user is POV pushing in these maps. All these maps were created by users based on academic reference. Unfortunately this user does not care, and uploads inaccurate POV versions. If this user uploads these POV versions, please revert them.
Thank you.
Maphobbyist (talk) 15:05, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
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Yann (talk) 15:03, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Raw versions of images[edit]
Hello, do you happen to have raw versions (without captions) of following images:
If so, could you upload it? It would be easier to caption those maps in other languages. SolarisAmigo (talk) 15:23, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
File:Iranian languages distribution.png[edit]
Greetings. Are you able to convert this map to a vector SVG file? WR 19:40, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Flag of Canton of Basel Land.svg[edit]
Hi, there is unity between the different flags of swiss cantons that use the name "Flag od Canton of" as they use the same color code and source (see Category:SVG flags of cantons of Switzerland). There is no "right" way to show a flag; all that mathers is that it reprensents its description. If you insist in making a new version of this file with another color, please upload it as a new file. I am not against any way of making the flag but by overwriting this file you are destroying the unity between the flags. My best regards, Espandero (talk) 15:46, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- I would agree with you that these files have been overwritten more than once, but the current color code seems to be the status quo. I would encourage to upload alternative forms under another name as to make a second set with another color code. For File:Coat of arms of Kanton Basel-Landschaft.svg I will upload a new file and make it part of a different set. I think we should find a consensus on this because it has been a problem for too long (but where to make this consensus?). Best regards, Espandero (talk) 15:54, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
Look, I have just done a deep dive on this coa for de:Fahne und Wappen des Kantons Basel-Landschaft, and because this article discusses design variants, it isn't true that "all that matters is that it reprensents its description". The design I have reverted to, and that has been the original upload for this file in 2009, is the one that was recognized officially by the cantonal government in 1948. Yes, it is true in general that "any drawing that reflects the heraldic description is acceptable". But that doesn't mean we should upload our own interpretations, especially not if there is an officially recoginzed version. There is no "correct" way to represent heraldic red (gules) in "web colors", that much is correct, and if you wish to give our representation of the officially recognized design a different color code for "red", I have no objection, just as long as the shape is preserved. There is no standard heraldic way of drawing "a Baselstab with seven gothic ornaments" because this "description" is entirely unique to this specific coa, so I don't really see how there can be a question of "unity". --Dbachmann (talk) 16:25, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm talking about unity in a set of files. To me it is important that all the files in a set use the same colors and obviously the same source (and then the same name so we can tell that they are from the same set). We are lucky enough to have one source that show how all the flags and COA must be represented for all cantons. Now as I said in my second message I understand that all these files have a history of being overwritten and do not represent the initial upload in some cases, but there must be a way to make the sets that exist "final" so that the overwriting stops. In that aspect I have created Category:Matt coats of arms of Swiss cantons that groups all the "matt" COA designs (taken from the source I was talking about). I think we should look into making a category like this for other versions. - Espandero (talk) 16:50, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
Fine, I am not going to waste time explaining this any further, I think proper procedure at this point is uploading a separate file and just route around the problem. --Dbachmann (talk) 20:39, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, it took me time but I finally understood that the problem originated from the shape of the Baselstab. This is obviously not ok. I have updated both the flag and the COA in the matt format according to your upload and the official description. I am however wondering if the flag should maybe be centered according to the middle square like the COA is. I think seeing both side to side is a little odd as is. Best regards, Espandero (talk) 10:27, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
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Dronebogus (talk) 05:49, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Ihre ie migrationskarte[edit]
war die beste und alle späteren modifikationen unsinn von ahnungslosen anfängern, ohne ausreichende Begründung. warum lasen sie sich das gefallen? Mit besten Grüßen, Ihr alter 2A02:8108:9640:1A68:488:3AB8:1EE3:8826 07:40, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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